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Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8033	Posted - 2014.07.20 06:42:00 - [1] - Quote I see you're in a player corp. Not for long, I imagine. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8035	Posted - 2014.07.20 09:17:00 - [2] - Quote Christian Lionbate wrote: Orca All becomes clear Ah, anti tanking. OP, you deserved to lose that ship. Next time, fit a proper tank. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8048	Posted - 2014.07.21 02:26:00 - [3] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: admiral root wrote: Jonah Gravenstein wrote: No way to tell, that data isn't tracked publicly IB4 Dinsdale uses this to prove it's a conspiracy and Gevlon Goofus produces a graph to show my post was wrong. :) Pfft like either of them lets the truth get in the way of their tinfoilhattery. Aluminum haberdashery. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8064	Posted - 2014.07.21 22:44:00 - [4] - Quote flakeys wrote: Andski wrote: Saar Ynier wrote: Then once he's done for the week, billions of ISK in loot up, he goes to Jan and repairs his sec ready for the next week with tags to no cost to himself... i didn't know tags were free I doubt the ''good people of eve'' actually know how much it costs to go from -9.9 to a -0 sec stat . See my sig. They aren't "good" just because they choose to remain ignorant and refuse to defend themselves. But yeah, that last five points is a *****. Haven't had to do it in a few months on any of my characters, but the last time I did it I got them for 10% less than Jita price and it was half of a plex all told. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8071	Posted - 2014.07.22 09:39:00 - [5] - Quote Saar Ynier wrote: Anywho, most will again, skim read my post and cherry pick it to make out I am talking about something else entirely, so from now on I won't be returning to this thread. Enjoy you discussion. Oh, no need whatsoever to cherry pick or chopquote. Every point you tried to make is wrong. See how easy that was? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8114	Posted - 2014.07.23 22:16:00 - [6] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: I know why destroyers exist, but they do create some fine line between reasonable high sec ganking and just randomly making concord irrelevant. There is no such thing as "unreasonable" highsec ganking anyway. An action taken within the boundaries of the game's rules is legitimate by default. Suggesting anything less is suggesting that people have the right to abdicate their own self defense to the mindless NPCs. In which case why in the **** are you playing an MMO in the first place. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8135	Posted - 2014.07.24 14:39:00 - [7] - Quote Ecrir Twy'Lar wrote: Hadrian Blackstone wrote: While I don't necessarily agree with OP, some things about criminals are kinda dumb. Like, "Hey, we know you're a criminal and we will shoot you on sight, but you can dock in our station! Come on in!" In any event, it's obvious CCP likes ganking and general mischief. If not, it'd be gone. So they wouldn't want to make it any harder to do. I agree. While I don't think CCP should do anymore to punish gankers. I think there needs to be more potential for players to punish them. It is dumb that an outlaw who is shot on sight can dock in station. I think what stations they can dock in should be determined by their security status. -1 security status and you can only dock in a 9.0 station. -2=8.0, etc. This wouldn't prevent them from hunting in highsec, but it would prevent them from using stations to hide. If they need supplies, they can still go to lowsec for them or they can have an alt bring them supplies. Gankers are added content. Why not take advantage of that and let people try and hunt them down. Instead, how about we give negative sec status players some incentive to undock? Remove facpo, that way neg sec status players are not being constantly chased around by the magic space police. That's the reason the prospective white knights can't get anything done by the way, because we can't have a margin for error thanks to the fact that the faction police can chase us down faster than a player ever will. You want to open up player interaction? Then remove the NPCs who get in the way. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8149	Posted - 2014.07.25 02:53:00 - [8] - Quote Ecrir Twy'Lar wrote: So you are saying that you can't hang out at a moon, planet, or belt? Or maybe a safe spot? The reason criminals are at a station is safety. Unfortunately all they would probably do if they couldn't dock is probably log out as soon as any timers were done. No, I'm saying that unless you hide in a safe spot in a pod with a neutral Orca, the faction police will find you. Long before a player ever will. I'm saying that if people want to complain about the "good guys" not getting a piece of the action, then they need to campaign to have the NPCs stop doing their work for them. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8155	Posted - 2014.07.25 10:16:00 - [9] - Quote admiral root wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I'm saying that if people want to complain about the "good guys" not getting a piece of the action, then they need to campaign to have the NPCs stop doing their work for them. In highsec, the good guys are the ones blowing people up. Hence quote marks. I figured that would be less overtly insulting than calling them white knights. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8167	Posted - 2014.07.25 21:40:00 - [10] - Quote admiral root wrote: Christina Project wrote: Dude. Most gankers hide in station all day. Most gankers I know spend 15 minutes at a time in stations. Notably, just enough time to play a game of Guns of Icarus Online. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8279	Posted - 2014.07.29 20:57:00 - [11] - Quote NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: You're exaggerating. Most gates are clear of Concord most of the time. You again seem to be looking past the fact that I said you would need a very low sec status for Concord to agress you on sight. No, he's putting two and two together. CONCORD's most found location is on gates, and your suggestion is just a hidden attempt at the "lock all criminals out of highsec because I shouldn't have to be at my keyboard!" argument. How about no? We have every right to live there, and play the same game you play. If you don't like it, here's a novel concept: SHOOT US. Most of us are free to shoot at, without even having to lower your safeties first. Grow a freaking pair, and do something about it instead of complaining. Quote: How is spawning Concord in belts exploiting anything? It would just mean you can't gank miners ALL THE TIME. You SHOULD need to wait for them to despawn or bugger off. Should it ever be a real problem, I'm sure CCP would declare it a bannable exploit like they've done with circumventing Concord in the past. It already is a bannable exploit to pre-summon CONCORD in your own defense. It should not be turned into a viable tactic because you freaking people don't want to be at your keyboards or be aligned. Oh, and you're missing something about how EVE works. Yes, I should be able to gank miners "ALL THE TIME". That is, if they are stupid enough to not watch local, d scan, and leave grid when five neg tens jump into the system. I should be able to gank miners any and every time they are fool enough to ignore defending themselves. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8282	Posted - 2014.07.29 21:46:00 - [12] - Quote NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: So what you're saying is you shouldn't be bothered to check gates and belts for Concord ships before you jump willy nilly into any system you want to get that miner that you feel you should be able to gank whenever you want? No, what am I saying is that you lot need to stop asking for the NPCs to do your job for you. Quote: It's not the fact that it's hard or complex or there are lots of griefers, it the fact that so many players are completely shut off from valid suggestions to improve the game. This is not a valid suggestion, and it would not improve the game. All it would do is make it easier to be lazy and not bother defending yourself. Quote: Everyone is so stubborn simply because what they believe is different from what is suggested, and nothing more. If the playerbase continues to be so harshly opposed to new ideas that could potentially bring in more subs, EVE WILL die. We're resistant to bad ideas. Especially selfishly motivated ones. Even moreso when they can't stand on their own merits and try to drape themselves in the flag of new players. If you're going to try to peddle that horseshit, this is the wrong board to do it on. If Riptard hadn't shut down his blog, I'd suggest that instead. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8282	Posted - 2014.07.29 21:53:00 - [13] - Quote NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: You are opposed to every single thing that is suggested. Every move CPP makes, you oppose it. Every time someone suggests something, you oppose it. How arrogant will you be when your precious griefer haven has it's servers shut down due to lack of income? To be perfectly honest, I would rather let the servers go cold right now than see the game turn into Trammel. I am, when you get right down to it, a refugee of Ultima Online after all. So, by all means continue to bluster about how the game will die if your own personal niche isn't catered to. The rest of us know it for what it is, entitlement. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8283	Posted - 2014.07.29 22:03:00 - [14] - Quote NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: You have no right to play a single game on PC if you would rather see a game shut down than draw more players. At the very least, I hope you can see the hypocrisy in your post. Enjoy killing EVE. You fail to understand. What you want is to kill the game for me, and people like me. You want this in your quest to get more theoretical casual players. You would happily sacrifice me, and my sub, and the subs of all the people like me in this quest. To me, there is no greater enemy in the context of this game than you and your kind. Because you literally want me to stop playing the game. So yes, I would, have, and will quite happily drive you away to prevent your bad ideas from taking hold and ruining the game. I would rather see EVE die by being EVE(which, by the way, won't actually happen, it's just a scare tactic you lot use to try and divert attention away from how bad your ideas are), than become something that is not EVE anymore. The fate of Ultima Online has taught me this. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8284	Posted - 2014.07.29 22:16:00 - [15] - Quote NIFTYGetAtMe wrote: I'm pointing out that the "gankers" are just as self-entitled and whiny as the "carebears", only their arguments are more skewed towards emotion and preventing EVE from growing while "carebears" tend suggest more logical ideas. You're wrong. The entitled and whiny people are the ones who don't want to play the game with the rules that exist right now, they want things changed in their favor. That would be you. Quote: Take the on grid CONCORD shooting extremely low sec status outlaws. That is COMPLETELY feasible. No, it's not. And no matter how many times you repeat that, it will still be a lie. Quote: They completely lack the ability to see potential and attempt to derail suggestions with bullying or emotional tangents. You're failing to be objective about your own suggestion because it's yours. You lack the ability to see the failings in an idea if the idea comes from you. That is a pretty huge logical fallacy by the way. You're just trying to shout down dissent against your bad idea, which is far more of a bullying tactic than anything employed here by any of us. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8285	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:27:00 - [16] - Quote Besides, any miners worth their salt fly aligned, watch local and don't die anyway. We shouldn't help the rest of them, in fact, we should actively propose mechanics to eliminate their way of life! Hooray for cognitive dissonance! "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8285	Posted - 2014.07.29 23:34:00 - [17] - Quote Christopher Mabata wrote: Why cant you see that? He can. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8360	Posted - 2014.08.02 22:46:00 - [18] - Quote Iain Cariaba wrote: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: I have this nagging feeling that, somehow, our logic and reasoning has fallen on deaf ears. This makes me sad. The question, "Why did you start playing Eve?" comes to mind. No doubt about the logic on deaf ears bit. The real queston is this: Before you started playing EvE, did you bother to do any research at all about the kind of game you were getting into or did you just say, "durr, shiney spaceships fun," and start an account? I honestly don't think the latter is possible. I have met very few MMO players who haven't ever heard of EVE. And of those, it's mostly because they have only just started playing MMOs in general, and think that WoW and GW2 and LOTRO are the only ones that exist. If someone genuinely doesn't know what they're getting into when they sign up, that requires a level of ignorance that is truly hard to maintain. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8372	Posted - 2014.08.03 02:17:00 - [19] - Quote Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Sorry to disappoint, but until December 2012 I'd never heard of EVE. I had signed onto the Star Citizen kickstarter and was reading more about it when i came across references to EVE. Signed up for the trial, thought EVE was pretty cool. Then got podded in hisec by an evil pirate and realized then that EVE was like no game I'd ever played before and also just might be the best game I'd ever played. I played Star Trek Online, SWTOR, and GW2, but never much looked at 3rd party sites so I never heard about EVE. I wish EVE had planetary missions like STO, spaceships and avatar gameplay are not mutually exclusive, but I was right: EVE is the best game I've ever played. I hope CCP doesn't mess it up by giving in to the carebears. O_O Well, that's the first time I've heard of SC drawing people into EVE, as opposed to the other way around. Agreed with the general sentiment, however. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 8680	Posted - 2014.08.10 10:51:00 - [20] - Quote I would point out that, while you can show up to a poker table and say that you're playing solitaire, that doesn't mean the other guys stop playing poker. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9033	Posted - 2014.08.23 00:23:00 - [21] - Quote Tear Jar wrote: I noticed this as well. Everyone says "we should group up and wipe out Code!" but its very rare for people to do anything to stop us. I've engaged in this line of thinking myself. Then I realized that if they were the kind of player who was capable of doing anything like that, they wouldn't be perennial victims themselves, or have such a problem with the New Order in the first place. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9527	Posted - 2014.09.04 00:07:00 - [22] - Quote NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: Suicide gankers do have it far too easy in EVE. Seems pretty unfair to everyone else who has to take risks for their rewards. The opposite is true. You know what's unfair? That people actually have to take it upon themselves to punish those who don't play the game correctly. That the game in and of itself is so easy that you can just afk autopilot through all of highsec, and if a player doesn't kill you, nothing will. They should implement rats that gatecamp in highsec. That'd solve that problem nicely. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9528	Posted - 2014.09.04 11:50:00 - [23] - Quote DJentropy Ovaert wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: DJentropy Ovaert wrote: This, of course, from the guy who claimed the trick to getting a freighter past a well run gate camp is to "Open a bunch of web browser windows" the second you jump, which will cause the player to magically appear 1mil KM from the game. I think he's missing the part where he crashes his session and has not read up on the mechanics involved :) Wait what!? LoL. Source: http://puu.sh/bkXu4/564c116254.png Original thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4847072 I warn you, you will leave the thread stupider for having read it :P ... there are not words. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9529	Posted - 2014.09.04 12:08:00 - [24] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Psssshhhh, dont talk, just laugh. "Ever see a guy say goodbye to a shoe!?" "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9572	Posted - 2014.09.09 01:54:00 - [25] - Quote NoLife NoFriends StillPosting wrote: The reason you prey on noobs and casuals in HS instead of engaging in challenging targets is precisely because you are weak and are fearful of real pvp. There is no such thing as "real pvp" or "fake pvp", you worthless poser. Everything in the game is pvp. That includes ganking. Oh, and by the way. The reason you campaign to have pvp curtailed, is because you are a spineless, anklebiting coward. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." Clean Up Local 2014.-á
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9743	Posted - 2014.09.13 16:25:00 - [26] - Quote Is Rod still crying about Darkfall? I guess he hasn't yet realized that different games are, in fact, different. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9885	Posted - 2014.09.24 02:55:00 - [27] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Killing -10 gankalysts is useless. They are cheap ships that the gankers expect to lose - setting them back 5 mil or so accomplishes nothing. Every 15 minutes they can gank again with the consequences. The whole system is broken. Unless you kill enough of their paper thin ships to stop a gank. Which is pretty easy in a rail fit Moa, by the way. The system is not broken, what is "broken" is **** poor attitudes like yours, where you want the goddamned NPCs to do your job for you. Stop being lazy, stop being so risk averse, and go out there and do what you are supposed to do in a PvP game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9885	Posted - 2014.09.24 03:06:00 - [28] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: How long is your rail fit moa gonna survive when 5 T2 catalysts land on top of it? Are you stupid? Or do you just think that D-scan doesn't work in highsec? Quote: What is broken is the fact that criminals can run freely around high security space with nothing more than a 15 minute timeout, regardless of how much carnage they cause. Since that's not actually the case, I have no idea what you think you're talking about. Quote: The suicide gankers are the risk averse ones, their exposure is capped at the cost of their cheap gank ship. No, that's called smart gameplay, and mitigating costs. You don't get to equate your sad, maladjusted risk aversion with smart gameplay, there is no equivalency here. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9890	Posted - 2014.09.24 11:19:00 - [29] - Quote Thomas Mayaki wrote: You seem to be saying the counter to a ganker is sitting in a Moa all day waiting for ganker to be stupid enough to gank in range of your Moa. Nope, try again. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9890	Posted - 2014.09.24 11:26:00 - [30] - Quote Thomas Mayaki wrote: Also you also seem to fail to recognise that ganking is totally risk adverse as you know exactly how much each gank will cost (or if you get your ships reimbursed it should cost 0isk). Also, you seem to fail to comprehend what "averse" means. By definition, "risk averse" does not apply to ganking. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9890	Posted - 2014.09.24 11:54:00 - [31] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Thomas Mayaki wrote: Also you also seem to fail to recognise that ganking is totally risk adverse as you know exactly how much each gank will cost (or if you get your ships reimbursed it should cost 0isk). Also, you seem to fail to comprehend what "averse" means. By definition, "risk averse" does not apply to ganking. Is someone confusing risk management with risk aversion again? Looks that way. Idk what it is lately, no matter what forum I am on I am having to break things down Barney style, because people have suddenly forgotten basic definitions. I think Lizard Squad DDoS'ed dictionary.com, or something. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9893	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:11:00 - [32] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: 3. Pointing out that the game mechanics let CODE gank expensive ships with cheap ones, and therefore avoid risk, is not complaining about CODE using the right tools. It's demonstrating a problematic aspect of the game mechanics. That is risk mitigation. You are the one demonstrating risk aversion, and a disgusting level of it in fact, by wanting to have your Machariel's tank tripled just because it costs more. Nevermind demonstrating a staggering level of ignorance as to how EVE's cost/benefit ratio works, and the concept of marketing. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9893	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:14:00 - [33] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Make the costs of suicide ganking commensurate with the benefits, and you will see it used as a scalpel, not an axe. What benefits? CODE operates at a loss, a pretty big one at that. You even admitted this a page or two ago. So, clearly since the benefits are zero unless the target does something incredibly stupid, I guess ganking needs to be buffed. I think a fifteen second reduction in CONCORD response speed for every system in highsec would do the trick. Quote: I do reserve the right to advocate for positive changes in the game, supported by the many highsec mission runners, miners, etc... who you and your allies so malign. It is their game too! It's not, it never was, and it never will be. EVE is a game for real players, not people whose only aspiration is to be NPCs. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9893	Posted - 2014.09.24 22:22:00 - [34] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: That's funny because I fly a 5 billion isk battleship all over highsec, and yet somehow I'm risk averse. Yep. Because you don't want to accept the consequences of your actions, and want those consequences removed to make yourself feel better. That's risk aversion. You are about as risk averse as it's possible to be. Quote: But the dedicated -10 gank alts who never undock in a ship worth more than 100 mil, are not risk adverse, but "risk managers." Touche. Correct, they are managing the risk of the results of their actions. Thanks to facpo, they are attacked in any ship they undock in, so their range of available ships is sharply limited, and can only be a disposable ship. If you don't like how they are forced to behave by this mechanic, well, TS. I for one think CCP should remove facpo from the game. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9893	Posted - 2014.09.25 12:00:00 - [35] - Quote Mr Omniblivion wrote: More destruction and consumption is good for everyone! Not to mention, the literal cornerstone of the economy. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9922	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:10:00 - [36] - Quote I really think he must be on drugs or some other kind of severe intoxicant at this point. But the question remains, which ones? My first guess is shrooms, or paint thinner. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9922	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:18:00 - [37] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I really think he must be on drugs or some other kind of severe intoxicant at this point. But the question remains, which ones? My first guess is shrooms, or paint thinner. Gee what an intelligent and useful comment properly addressing the issues. There are no issues, just you campaigning for changes that would severely damage the game from your position of complete ignorance. At this point, the only issue is what your brain damaging intoxicant of choice might be. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9922	Posted - 2014.09.29 03:31:00 - [38] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Obviously you completely fail to grasp the economic fundamentals underlying Eve. One of us certainly is, if you think that deflation is harmful to the game in any way, or actually happening on any noteworthy scale what's more. The "one of us" is you, by the way. But given the frankly astonishing level of ignorance you have displayed pretty much with every post since you first blighted these forums, that is not surprising to me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9928	Posted - 2014.09.29 09:56:00 - [39] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: I don't think you know what inflation means... Not until he comes down, anyway. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9962	Posted - 2014.10.01 23:06:00 - [40] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: 2. Lose expensive blinged out ships on a regular basis Ha ha, what? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9980	Posted - 2014.10.02 19:12:00 - [41] - Quote Well, since Fabulous Rod and his latest alts have mysteriously disappeared once again(cough), I now name Veers Belvar as the new "Face of Doing It Wrong". "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9997	Posted - 2014.10.05 12:21:00 - [42] - Quote Barbara Nichole wrote: I don't necessarily agree that gankers need to be punished more harshly.. however, I believe the rewards need to be comensorate with the risk so the value of high sec needs to be restored. It should not be radically nerfed just because it not null sec. High is different play not lesser play.. that's the way it should be. On one hand, you say that risk/reward needs reinstated. On the other hand, you say that highsec should not be brought into line, because it's special. Lol. Highsec's risk/isk ratio is hilariously skewed towards profitability. This is not necessarily because they are so profitable (with the huge exception of incursions), but because highsec is too damned safe. In the future, I advise you to not to bring up the whole "risk vs reward" concept, since no matter what it is damning towards highsec as it currently exists. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 9999	Posted - 2014.10.06 02:57:00 - [43] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: Iain Cariaba wrote: Unfortunately, Veers is so entrenched in his delusions that he honestly believes he's at risk running incursions while being protected by omnipotent, uber powered NPCs, and those of us who live in nullsec never have to deal with the fact that literally everyone not blue is in fact out to get you. He thinks that because we in null plan for every contingency we can think of, then every contingency our corpies can think of, then the alliance, etc, that we live a life free of risk. His life must be so tough shooting the same red crosses in the same order at the same time, day after day. That'd drive me batty too. Man, everyone knows that working in a Biosafety Level 4 (think Ebola, Lassa fever) is way more safe than standing around on the street in the middle of Nowhere, Midwest. People in a BL4 lab are wearing spacesuits with independent filtered air supplies, but they guy out in Nowhere is just surrounded by germs! Nevermind that anyone who has actually experienced one of those things would rather work in a nuclear reactor than in one of them... "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10002	Posted - 2014.10.06 11:51:00 - [44] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Here is a fact - I haven't autopiloted for months....I decide to give it a shot in an empty shuttle with an empty pod. Literally within 3 months a Codebro ganks my shuttle and tries to pod me. Ah, here is the clincher, guys. He got popped once in a three month period for autopiloting, and that means highsec is less safe than nullsec. Bravo. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10006	Posted - 2014.10.06 20:00:00 - [45] - Quote Since Veers has degenerated into full on grammatical incoherency, I think this is highly relevant. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10006	Posted - 2014.10.06 20:14:00 - [46] - Quote Steppa Musana wrote: Veers doesn't think he's an elite PvPer. He's trolling you guys by using the same rhetoric James 315 does in his blog. He's probably laughing his ass off each time one of you responds to it. Nah. The kind of emphatic appeals and moral crusading like he has can only come from a true carebear believer. Like when people always used to tell me that Infinity Ziona was "just trolling", I said nope, he actually believes all that bullshit. Never bet against the bottomless capacity of self delusion. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10014	Posted - 2014.10.07 23:10:00 - [47] - Quote I have never been able to figure out why people think adding more restrictions to player behavior could ever result in "more content". Assuming such a sentiment is genuine, in any case. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10020	Posted - 2014.10.08 19:11:00 - [48] - Quote Arcano Dentist wrote: Not everyone wants to PVP. That is why they stay in high sec. Why are they playing EVE in the first place, then? This has been stated unequivocally by the developers as being a PvP game. Why not just go play Star Trek Online? Seeing as that's pretty much what you people say that you want. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10021	Posted - 2014.10.08 20:00:00 - [49] - Quote Cetaphil Thrace wrote: There are no rules in this game really, and if someone wants to play in hi-sec, what is wrong with that? And if I want to blow up precisely those people, what is wrong with that? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10025	Posted - 2014.10.08 20:35:00 - [50] - Quote Cetaphil Thrace wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Cetaphil Thrace wrote: There are no rules in this game really, and if someone wants to play in hi-sec, what is wrong with that? And if I want to blow up precisely those people, what is wrong with that? There is nothing wrong with that. Part of the game Then... what exactly are you trying to say? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.

Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10050	Posted - 2014.10.11 23:02:00 - [51] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: If you have ever see these pvp experts in action they mindlessly bounce around their safes 200 km off gates until they find an AP shuttle, and then meet it at the outgank and gank. It's probably even more bot-like than miners pressing F1 and occasionally unloading cargo. I'd love to see how you justify an action every twenty seconds or so, combined with multiboxing a scout, somehow being more "bot like" than one button press every twenty minutes in between watching Family Guy. Quote: The good news is that the Goons are way above this kind of behavior. You guys spend your time running recruitment scams to rip off new players, which is another activity that could use some seriously beefed up punishments. "new players" don't have the kind of money to get ripped off by that scam. That's the same nonsense as when people cry about how margin scams hurt "new players". When in fact genuinely new players don't have 800 milllion isk to buy into the scam in the first place. It's nothing but foolish, lazy, entitled players whining about how they should have no risk of loss. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10057	Posted - 2014.10.12 22:10:00 - [52] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: The scams really on the appearance of law and order in highsec and in the highsec market, and it is far past time that there was some effective policing involved so that new players don't get ripped off and quit the game. No new player can afford to buy into that scam. It's as simple as that. Stop using new players as a smokescreen to hide your disgusting risk aversion. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10058	Posted - 2014.10.13 10:22:00 - [53] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: I don't see any redeeming value in this garbage, and am especially concerned by the margin trading scam which uses the eve market to look credible I thought you said you were financially literate? Half or more of the game's economy revolves around that skill. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Deep Space The ROC 10060	Posted - 2014.10.13 23:39:00 - [54] - Quote Dirk Magnum wrote: Just because YOU can't help but replicate your out of game ethics or beliefs in game doesn't mean others can't split the fantasy from reality. The game is a different world with different rules, like literally every other game. Very much this. Carebears need to stop trying to inflict their own mental illness on everyone around them. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10818	Posted - 2014.12.15 16:41:54 - [55] - Quote XeX Znndstrup wrote: No outlaw here will help you to find the solution to destroy them. Here, I'll do it. Shoot them. Most of them are perma flashy, so it carries no consequence in doing so. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11187	Posted - 2015.01.13 02:16:10 - [56] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Hahaha, I thought the isd incinerated this thread months ago. hands up, whose the necromancer, I'm looking at you anal canal . I thought that this thread would be like a nice wine that gets better with age. That would require it having been a nice wine in the first place. You know, instead of makeshift, halfassed prison liquor, fermented behind a radiator. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11187	Posted - 2015.01.13 02:27:04 - [57] - Quote CODE Agent AC wrote: Silk purses have been made from pig's ears though. True. But the only thing you can really say about makeshift, halfassed prison liquor is that it gives people headaches when they consume it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11188	Posted - 2015.01.13 11:56:30 - [58] - Quote IIshira wrote: Don't knock good radiator made booze till you try it :D I've had that, and seen worse besides. I once had someone make the most wretched cocktail I have ever encountered in my whole life in front of me. Hand sanitizer, kosher salt and generic orange sports drink powder. I could barely disguise my revulsion, and I did not partake. For which my brain cells thanked me. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.

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